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Report #:  65491   Status: Open
From header from NNTP client not respected
Project:  EDN Build #:  2
Version:    2 Submitted By:   Rudy Velthuis (TeamB)
Report Type:  Basic functionality failure Date Reported:  8/9/2008 8:47:07 PM
Severity:    Commonly encountered problem Last Updated: 8/9/2008 10:33:59 PM
Platform:    All platforms Internal Tracking #:  
Resolution: None (Resolution Comments) Resolved in Build: : None
Duplicate of:  None
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Description
When posting over NNTP using a newsclient, the From: header is changed by the server. Instead of the name received from the newsclient, the name from the CDN profile is used.

This is a problem for several people. Some people use nicknames for valid reasons, some people write their name differently (e.g. a man called Andrea might want to use André to avoid confusion about his gender), some people, like us TeamBers, would like to use their tags.
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Gillmer Derge at 8/11/2008 5:01:38 PM -
IMO, ignoring the From field goes hand-in-hand with requiring users to log in.  If you require them to log in but then allow them to use whatever From header they choose, then you've lost most of what you gained.

Rather than accepting arbitrary From headers, allow better editing of the name associated with the CDN account.

A "display name" field would be adequate.  Or you could add fields to handle a more elaborate full name.  Something like title, first name, middle name, last name, suffix, tag.

If someone really desperately needs to prevent their real name from being displayed on the forums, they can always either change their CDN account information or create a special CDN account for newsgroup posting.

Remy Lebeau (TeamB) at 8/26/2008 2:25:33 PM -
Rather than create multiple accounts, it would be nice to be able to configure multiple display names for a single account.  When sending a message, you can then choose which one to use.

Wayne Niddery at 8/21/2008 3:20:04 PM -
I agree with Thomas, almost everything on the net, whether forums like these, game sites, facebook, whatever, allows you to enter a public name you want displayed.

Login allows Embarcadero to know that name behind any alias (to the extent a user enters valid information to begin with), that is all that is necessary to get the benefit of logins.

If someone acts up, it doesn't matter there public alias, Embarcadero has the ability to block that person and take other action much easier than before.

Thomas Maeder at 8/19/2008 12:41:18 PM -
I don't see the connection between the From header and the requirement to log in.

The requirement to log in gives Embarcadero/CodeGear the possibility of identifying who submitted a particular post.

The From header allows the author of a post to define how others can contact me directly (or preventing them from doing so).

These two things seem unrelated to me.

Also, while the login requirement is under Embarcadero's control, the From header is specified by one of the fundamental RFCs (1036 - Standard for Interchange of USENET Messages); it's a good idea not to even think of tampering with it.

Andreas Richter at 8/21/2008 11:47:57 PM -
The fix is also important for setup a news proxy. In our company we use leafnode to access several news servers out of our local network. All my colleagues only access the news proxy. It act like a real news server. It gets all the posts from several news servers and put the posts from my colleagues through itselfe to the correct news server on the internet.

To access forums.codegear.com i create a new CDN-Account named 'News Proxy'. That account is used by the news proxy for access the forums. Unfortunateley now the real names from my colleagues would be replaced by "News Proxy" when they post a message to the forums through our news proxy. That's unloveley.

Put the real name from the NNTP-client to the post on the forums would fix this issue.

David Dean at 8/25/2008 11:17:48 AM -
This bug also prevents users of some NNTP clients from canceling their own posts. see QC 65743

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